I’m taking a break from the dividend world today to tell you a little bit more about my story. I’ve always been as much transparent as I could with you, and this won’t change today. On July 1st, 2017, I officially quit my job as a private banker and started my journey as an entrepreneur.
A leap of faith;
A dumb decision;
Freedom.
Call it what you want. On that day, I stopped receiving a paycheck, I kissed my defined pension plan goodbye and I turned my back to job security for life. But after crossing the Honduran border twice with my family; fear has been deleted from my vocabulary. I was up for something more exciting.
A look back at the first months
I started my journey as I start pretty much everything in life: all-in, full speed. The first months remind me of how I tackled my first trail run. I ran like there is no tomorrow until I realized that I needed to breath as I wouldn’t make it to the finish line. The difference is that I took about a year before I realized I needed to slow down.
The first months were quite hectic. One day, I was working 10 hours and achieving tons of things. The next day, I was better off playing Hearthstone as my brain was completely dead. Finding a balance in hours worked and a consistency was a major challenge. With no boss and no appointments, wondering on the internet all day could be easily done!
I was rapidly going back to my tasks as I left my job without any safety nets. I had just come back from a 12 month trip across North & Central America. I had virtually no money left. I had to live with the possibility of not having enough money to pay my bills at the end of the month. Fortunately for me, I had someone looking out for me and he was ready to put money in whenever I needed it. I guess this is why we call that “love money” when you start a business. In an ideal world, I would have waited to have money on the side before quitting my job. But that would have been just another excuse piling up on top of another ten thousand reasons for not quitting my job sooner. I didn’t let that happen.
How I make money
So, could I generate enough money to sustain a family of five? Can this blog generate that much money? Unfortunately, it doesn’t. When I started working full-time, I had three major sources of revenue. I sold advertising on other websites (not this blog), I wrote a lot for Seeking Alpha and I built my membership website; Dividend Stocks Rock.
The first two sources require that I trade time for money, especially writing for another site. Each time I wanted to generate money, I needed to trade a couple of hours of my time in exchange of a paycheck for my article. While the money is good and it’s a good way to get immediate returns, this is not scalable. In fact, this looks a lot like having a job.
I’ve spent the past two years on building a better platform for dividend investors. In two years, we have grown our members community by more than 1,000. DSR has now become the most complete investing platform for dividend growth investors.
The Dream
So, Mike, do you really live off your investments?
When I tell people, I retired from the corporate world at 35, they all think I’m rich and living off my passive investments. There are so many discussions and definition of the FIRE movement (Financial Independence Retire Early) that one can easily be lost. I use the words “retired from the corporate world” as I now design my own lifestyle. Here’s what I mean by “I’m retired”:
I’m doing what I really like each day. This doesn’t mean I don’t work; I do. But if being retired means not working, I’m not going to be retired unless I pass away. If I had $10M in my bank account, I would still live in the same house as my children cherish their neighborhood and school. They have built a life here and I respect that. Once my children grow older, I’ll sell my house and travel the world while visiting them every 2-3 months. That’s what most people would call a great retirement, right?
I work 365 days a year, but I’m on vacation just as much. I don’t make any difference between Friday and Monday. I can work on Sunday morning, but be completely free for a Tuesday evening I’m never stressed to pick-up kids somewhere or driving them to their next activities. In 2018, I took at total of 6 weeks of what people call “vacation” and I’m planning to spend 1 month in Vietnam in early 2020. I will likely travel a month per year going forward. It’s not like taking a vacation because I’ll still work. But transforming my lifestyle into “I’m always working and always on vacation” is the best feeling.
I can work anywhere in the world. The only reason why I’m not already travelling across the world all the time is because I respect my children’s life here. However, I could easily afford to jump from country to another all year around. We are starting a “test” with Vietnam, but I really see myself going away 1 month per year (yes, during school time) each year starting in 2020.
I’m paid to manage my portfolio. I’ve noticed a major difference since I started working full-time on DSR: my investment performances have got even better. I was already doing well (I beat the market between 2012 and 2017), but I was even able to post positive returns in 2018, where both US and Canadian market were down by mid-single digits. Did I become a better investor? Not at all. The only difference is that I now spend 8-10 hours a day working on tools I developed at DSR and use them on my own portfolio. The more I work on DSR, the more I improve it, the better my portfolio performances are.
I guess the secret is that I found a passion (the stock market) and made a business out of it. This way, I never have the impression that I work. This is the definition of being retired for me: living a life that makes me happy without having to be obliged to someone or something else.
The Frustrations
Now that I’ve bragged for a while about how great the business is and how I enjoy my new lifestyle, I must tell you, being a business owner is no different than any other adventure in life: it’s amazing, but it comes with a great load of frustration too.
When you sit at a table with a pen and paper thinking about how great your business plan is going to be; you are filled with dreams and ambitions. You are ready to work relentlessly, and you expect great rewards. This all looks good on paper… I even had the impression I was reasonable, read cautious, in my estimates. Ah! What I fool I was.
The first problem I encountered was that no matter how hard you work; rewards don’t come right away. I’ve found myself working hard (this was no vacation or retirement!) and getting little results at first. I expected exponential growth, but it was more linear. For a while, I really had the feeling I was (again) trading hours of work for money. Then, it started to grow a lot faster, but it took over a year before I could reap the fruits of my labor.
I also started to “live the life” a little too fast. During my first year as an entrepreneur, I’ve had about 6-7 weeks off, I travelled to Guatemala, rented 2 vacations properties and toured all Atlantic provinces (besides Newfoundland). Let’s just say I was burning my money as soon as I made it. The company was left with little to survive. I should have remembered: cash is king. Now, I make sure to have lots of liquidity available in my company’s bank account!
The second challenge I encountered was finding consistency in my work. One day, I was a machine ready to work like 5 financial analysts. The next day, I found myself surfing between Twitter, Seeking Alpha, financial blogs and… playing Hearthstone. It took a good 6 months before I was finally able to have a schedule where I could work with consistency each day. I had to become better at planning my days, my weeks and I’m now working on planning my quarter (still a work in progress).
The third issue was scheduling ahead. For the first 12 months, I was basically working my way through the day and hope that I had done enough at the end of the week. Then, plenty of surprises would come my way at unexpected moments. For example, I had completely forgotten that we had annual renewals for both our hosting services and financial data access (through YCharts) during the same month. Let’s just say I didn’t enjoy spring break in March as I used to.
I’ve learned a lot during the first twelve months, and I can tell the second year was a lot better. During the last year, I learned how to manage those challenges and I’m now getting close to the point of hiring another employee as the business keeps growing. Being an entrepreneur is like a never-ending race where you must constantly learn new things and adapt. The finish line is rarely what matters, the journey is the real thing.
The Achievements
What I like the most about being an entrepreneur is the ability to change the course of things. I gained full control of both my life and my financial situation. Each day, I’m amazed to see this business growing into something a lot bigger than “just me”.
For 8 years now, I have a full-time employee. Vero, my core business manager, was “there” before I worked full-time on DSR. She learned how to work alone and manage the ship throughout the storms. Today, the team is growing as we have two part-times and I’m looking to add someone new to the team in the next 12 months. Watching DSR become a team effort is amazing. Now, I go on vacation and the job is still getting done. That’s a great feeling.
We also reached out 1,000th members after 18 months of hard labors. Around December 2018, we crossed the mark of 1,000 members and we keep growing. We are now about to help over 1,000 investors to avoid mistakes and make “good investments”. When members tell me, they were waiting for their Friday morning coffee to read my newsletter, it makes my day.
In February 2018, we launched an upgraded service called DSR PRO. This was a huge step forward for both the business and our members. We started with 35 beta testers at that time. The goal was to produce a report tracking each investor’s holdings and provide them with a summary of each earnings season. Today, we track over 1,000 stocks (on both Canadian and US markets) and generate reports for several hundred members. PRO subscribers not only receive a portfolio summary every quarter, they also get ratings on all holdings and a list of potential replacements for lower rated stocks. Even better, our buy ratings outperformed the market in the past 6 and 12 months while our sell ratings also save several thousands for our members.
Last year, DSR turned 5 years old. It was a great achievement as we have published our portfolio performance since day one. I always thought that if someone is willing to pay me for information, I better deliver something great. To this day (getting closer to 6 years!), most of our portfolios beat their benchmark (and the stock market as a whole). We went through 2018 with great success too (so don’t tell me bull markets make geniuses ?).
What’s going to happen next?
When I meet with old colleagues, most of them ask me if I regret. The only thing I regret was to not quit my job earlier and design the life I really want. This opportunity was sitting patiently in front of me for the past decade, but I only seized it 2 years ago. So no, I don’t regret my choice, I embrace it!
In the next 12 months, I want to move even faster. That’s why I’m working on hiring another employee, someone with a strong financial background that will help me bring DSR to a whole new level. I see there are so many ways we can improve investing knowledge that haven’t been done. I thought I could have hired that person already, but as everything else I planned; it looked better on paper than in real life!
In the next 12 months, I will also get to the “part II” of my lifestyle design. In an ideal world, I would travel with my family (my wife and three kids) for a month and then still have the resources to spend 7 to 10 days with my wife in another country each year. I think this is something that could happen in 2020, but this will include lots of work in the upcoming months! Fortunately, this is the kind of work that looks like a treat more than a task!
I always try to be as transparent as possible. If you have any questions about my lifestyle, my business, or how I manage anything else; just write a comment or write me an email.
Tawcan
Congrats Mike, seems that the entrepreneur life is treating you very well. 🙂
DivGuy
Thx Tawcan!
I really like building my own business and designing my own lifestyle. Those are great rewards :-).
Passivecanadianincome
Nice Mike.
Sounds like your hard work is really starting to pay off. I used to play hearthstone too. Good game but pretty addictive.
Keep it up, love your future goals. Best of luck finding a new good partner.
cheers!
DivGuy
Haha! yeah, it is addictive!
Fortunately, I don’t play during “work time” anymore! haha!
Cheers,
Mike.
Dividend Diplomats
DGB –
Incredible article. The leap. The journey. The progress. Your determination, learning and incorporating what you learned into your habits is phenomenal.
This is true inspiration and one that I will have to resort to, if I come close to hanging it up earlier than I plan (which is not too far away…).
Keep going DGB, this is only the beginning.
-Lanny
DivGuy
If you have any questions or need any help making the jump, let me know!
Cheers,
Mike
Vero
Love, love this article boss! 😉 It seems like I’ve known you for ever (it’s actually real close to it) and I really recognize you in these words. You are a passionate person, a dedicated entrepreneur, a fair and quite friendly boss and an amazing investor. I’m super happy about what’s happening for our team and especially for the members who trust in us.
It’s a pleasure to work with you and to watch you evolve in this journey.
Thank you for letting me have the life of my dream too by offering me this “job” 8 years ago! My dream and the job have now become a lifestyle that truly participate in my happiness! 🙂
P.S. You didn’t mention Belize! haha
DivGuy
Ah! It has been a pleasure to share this adventure with you V!
I can’t wait to all go to Belize! it’s going to be so much fun 🙂 This is definitely in my plan!
Cheers,
Mike
Rob in Germany
That was quite interesting. I started and than abandoned a business that never really took off. I identified a great niche, worked out several different business plans lined up partners etc. What derailed the whole project was the website side of things. Finding a webmaster and someone who could handle the technical side of things turned out to be an absolute nightmare. 4 half built websites later I finally gave up. If I did it again I would have partnered with someone who could handle the technical side of things not as an employee but as a partner. If the business takes off we make money if not we don’t.
Anyways it was an interesting experience but I’m much happier trading hours for dollars.
Rob
DivGuy
Hey Rob,
Thank you for sharing your experience! I am fortunate to have started my business with a strong tech guy by my side!
I don’t think there is only one way to “make it”. We are all different and the idea is to find something that makes you happy when you getup each morning. I’m glad you did 🙂
Cheers,
Mike
John
All of this is typical of F.I.R.E. disciples and everything looks and feels great as long as the stock market collaborates. One thing that is grossly underestimated by F.I.R.E. advocates is that a secular bear market might be lurking around the corner (it is a probability somewhere down the road and not only a possibility) and might bring decades of misery (i.e. : Japan 1989 till today). If and when that happens, almost all self-proclaimed F.I.R.E. disciples will bite the dust because none of them has ever even considered the remote possibility of such a scenario playing out… Once you have no choice but to start to “burn” cash, the forest (your nest egg) goes up in flames incredibly fast. One particularly vicious aspect of this is that the bear market might even happen in an era where interest-rates are historically low (and even negative in some countries) so the relative safety of holding Treasuries or bonds would simply not work in this environment. That would be compatible with the end of the “baby-boomer” economical cycle.
Finding a job in your 50’s or 60’s in the middle of a full-blown depression simply won’t happen… That is why defined benefit pension plans exist… Leaving a job that offers that kind of future security is “no margin of safety” at all as would say Warren Buffett… In this day and age, one has to be extra careful as the baby-boomer cycle is coming to an end and there will be dire future economical consequences.
If a nasty, prolonged bear market happens, your subscriber base might just melt like snow in the sun and so would your “passive” income… You might want to consider including in your strategy a “what if scenario” by stress-testing your plan using the Nikkei 225 data from 1989 (peak of the bull) till today trying to determine how long your principle would last in a market that would go down for 12 consecutive years and only recover to 50% of it’s original level 30 years after it’s peak… Believe me, it is a wake up call and a really, really humbling experience. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
DivGuy
Hello John,
Thank you for your comment, but I would characterized myself as being FIRE since I still work and I don’t have the intention of stopping either. I just found a lifestyle that makes me excited each morning when I get up out of bed.
As for a potential “end of the world” market crash that would go down for 12 consecutive year, nothing will protect us from that. Define pension plans are “guaranteed” by your employer. The only difference is that the employee is not “taking the risk” of keeping its investments alive, the employer has it all on its shoulder. Therefore, we are talking about the same portfolio being affected by the same 12 mega bear market. How many companies do you think will keep-up their define pension plan “as is”?
After the 2008 market crisis (which is very small compared to a Mega-Bear as described), many companies cancelled or modified their define pension plan. Many of them don’t offer it anymore as they realize it was too much of a burden. Even my previous employer (which was a major bank) changed its pension rules. Overnight, I wasn’t eligible to full retirement at 58, but rather at 65. Overnight, I lost 7 years of “safe” retirement.
Unfortunately, Governments based define pension plans aren’t any different. They are subject to the same market volatility.
Having a business or working for one won’t make much of a difference during a Mega-Bear market: both will be very hard and many people will lose their job. I just prefer to have more control and more information about how and when I will face such challenge.
Cheers,
Mike
John
The Nikkei 225 went steadily down from late 1989 to early 2003, sliding over 80% from it’s previous peak and still has not fully recovered. USA 1932-1954 (and 1969-82) was similar.
One has to keep this in mind when planning for retirement… Leaving too early might lead to financial Armageddon for those who believe it cannot happen again. If you retire from your job when you are 55-65, you have a 30-40 year retirement horizon and your nest egg might just last long enough for you to be O.K. On the other hand, FIRE disciples retire in their mid 30’s to 40’s and have a “retirement horizon” that is almost twice as long… If compound interest makes miracles happen over the long haul, withdrawals during long draw down periods make just the opposite happen and are guaranteed to bring absolute misery. Chances are FIRE advocates will outlive their nest egg by quite a number of years and, believe me, there is no fun in spending you later years in absolute poverty and despair.
It is better to be safe than sorry.
Also, government pension plans have the possibility to immediately raise contributions if they feel the plan is at risk of being significantly underfunded.
In my opinion, it is also totally irresponsible socially speaking for country, state or provincial governments to let private employers get away with transferring the risk to the employees by switching from defined benefit pension plans to defined contribution plans specially in an era when interest rates are historically low and are bound to stay that way for decades to come… This will guarantee poverty for all seniors down the road !
Sometimes, you have to “endure” an “unpleasant” government job for 35 years because the benefit lies down the road : the pension plan… Some of those plans are solid gold and one must not overlook this very important aspect when choosing a career in his early 20’s.
DivGuy
Hello John,
As opposed to what most FIRE claim, they all work and generate money different ways. Guys like Mr. Money Mustache or Jason Fieber (former owner of Dividend Mantra) continues to have side income and don’t withdraw from their investment account. It’s more about designing a great lifestyle (to each their own).
Government can definitely extend the age of retirement (from 65 to 67 or 70), but that’s not a winner decision on a political point (one Gov tried that in Canada and the next one cancelled it right away to gain vote). Then, they could (should) increase contribution, but then again, not a winning political decision to tell the population: from now own, your contribution will increase by 5%.
The truth is quite simple: most define pension plan and other retirement structure that we will use today were designed more than 50 years ago when people would live up to 70-75. Now that we have a great chance to live over 85, we have a big math problem to solve. Nobody wants to make sacrifices (e.g. spend less, save more, work more, harder or longer) and prefer to blame it on everybody else but themselves (“incompetent” Govts and “big bad” companies included).
I guess it also comes down to a matter of perception. As much as I don’t know if the market will crash for 10 years, I also don’t know if I’ll live healthy until the age of 90. Both can happen… or not.
One may fear to outlive his/her portfolio and die at 90 without a penny for the past 20 years. My biggest fear was (not anymore) to live an “okay” life for 35 years and die suddenly at 65-70 without truly enjoying that golden pension plan. There are tons of people who save up their whole life to never enjoy their retirement as they should.
Plus, there are tons of things I want to do that I will not likely be able to do if I have to “retire” at 65. Spending tons of time with my children is one of them.
I rather live an awesome life now and figure it out as it goes. As long as I work and learn, I keep my skills up and I can either run businesses or work for someone down the line. I lived 7 months in Central America with my entire family in a space smaller than my kitchen. I’m not afraid of not having money.